I, on the other hand, am excited about the goals you speak of and the fact that they are being so looked at by the major denomination. Thanks for your work with them

The intentions are well enough. But rhetoric will never suffice. The physical political power of the evangelical heathens will dominate the stage for decades. The ONLY solutuon is the total annihilation of theism. The is absolutely NO ARGUMENT that justifies belief in a diety.

Helene, I love your post... but with one objection. You write “with my Irish background, I’ve always been a bit prejudiced.” That’s unfair... and historically misleading. As between the Irish and the Presbyterians, the bigotry has been on the Presbyterian side. In my mother’s family, that was writ large.